Very interesting article Zarco.
Here's hoping the waters of the Euphrates begin to recede.
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Watchtower - Taxes and Grassley
by zarco instartfragment.
charles grassley of iowa has for years been very concerned about abuses in the use of money by charitable and religious organizations.
he recently stated, the constitution does not exempt churches from federal income taxation or from filing tax and information returns.. his goal is complete transparency of how the dollars are used.
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Why so many Atheist VS. Christian discussions here?
by mindmelda ini notice a lot of the discussions seem to be atheist vs christian here.
or is that just my perception?.
but, do the other people who are neither just not care to debate as much or are there just fewer or them, or both?.
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RELIGION IS LIKE A PENIS
It's fine to have one.
It's fine to be proud of it.
But please don't whip it out in public and start waving it around.
And PLEASE don't try to shove it down my children's throats.
(Not sure of the source, but I like it.)
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On Jerkhovas Witlesses, Kingdumb Hells, Filthful & Discreet Slavebugger and Pio-sneering . .
by nicolaou ini detest this type of posting.
it's only my opinion of course and so long as forum rules aren't breached we're all free to express ourselves as we see fit.
doesn't mean i have to like it though.. honestly, can't you make your point without this kind of infantile name calling?
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Perhaps Simon could create a section of JWN called Tartarus.
The only way a poster would be allowed in is by first clicking on an "I Agree" button that they have sinned against The Holy Spirit and have no hope of eternal salvation.
It would take a pretty thick-skinned still-in JW to click on that.
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I have so much spiritual gas from that spolied so called spiritual food over the years...what should I take?
by Joliette ini need to get rid of it.. when i was a kid, the brothers would always get on stage and talk about what an abudant buffet of spiritual food from jehovah's table we will receive.
when i was a kid i use to take everything so literally, so i would imagine a buffet of ham, chicken, macncheese (the most creamy mac n cheese, candy yams, turkey, corn bread).
i used to wish that the brother would finish with the prayer so we could get to old county buffet, so i could get to the literal food.. .
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Are You A "Dictionary Atheist"?
by cofty inthere is more to .. atheism than simple denial of one claim; it's actually based on a scientific attitude that values evidence and reason, that rejects claims resting solely on authority, and that encourages deeper exploration of the world.
atheism is not solely a negative claim about gods, but is based on a whole set of positive values ... that denial of god thing?
it's a consequence, not a cause.
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Marking for later.
Thanks.
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The WT Headship Principle (tm): Did you ever REALLY buy it?
by Open mind ini believed that god was the big boss and his first-line supervisor was jesus.. .
everything beyond that got a bit shaky for me throughout my jw life.. .
but this bit, i never bought into for even an instant: the husband is the head of the wife.. .
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Sorry I haven't been around for a couple days to respond. Thanks for all the great comments.
Heaven: "Headshipt is just another aspect/degree of oppression and slavery. It is not a loving, True North Principle. "
I like the sound of that.
At my wife's recommendation I just finished listening to the audio book "Infidel" read by the Author Ayaan Hirsi Ali.
What an incredibly brave woman. It was creepy seeing many psychological and cultural similarities between Islam and the JWs. Although, the Islamic life Ayaan lived through was MUCH worse than the typical JW experience, IMO.
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JW Culture Survey: Two-piece swimsuits? OK for JWs?
by Open mind inup front, i'm not talking about jw baptisms.
we all know the approved female attire is a "modest" swimsuit and even that's not modest enough, so they slap a big t-shirt over the "modest" swimsuit.. .
i'm talking about anywhere else jws and water would mix: the beach, the pool, the river, etc.
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In the 70's & 80's where I grew up, a pretty conservative US state, two-piece was definitely a no-no.
Then I moved to Calipornea and it was JW Girls Gone Wild!
Uh. OK, not really. But like Mrs Jones said: two-piece is OK in California.
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JW Culture Survey: Two-piece swimsuits? OK for JWs?
by Open mind inup front, i'm not talking about jw baptisms.
we all know the approved female attire is a "modest" swimsuit and even that's not modest enough, so they slap a big t-shirt over the "modest" swimsuit.. .
i'm talking about anywhere else jws and water would mix: the beach, the pool, the river, etc.
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Up front, I'm not talking about JW baptisms. We all know the approved female attire is a "modest" swimsuit and even that's not modest enough, so they slap a big T-shirt over the "modest" swimsuit.
I'm talking about anywhere else JWs and water would mix: the beach, the pool, the river, etc.
1. What was acceptable JW female swimwear when & where you grew up?
2. What's acceptable where you are now?
And, if you're so inclined, let us know what geographical area you're talking about.
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The WT Headship Principle (tm): Did you ever REALLY buy it?
by Open mind ini believed that god was the big boss and his first-line supervisor was jesus.. .
everything beyond that got a bit shaky for me throughout my jw life.. .
but this bit, i never bought into for even an instant: the husband is the head of the wife.. .
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Just remembered another wrinkle in the Headship Principle which my wife and I haven't used, but I'll pass it along for general reference.
If Elders try to swoop down on a fading female JW with a bunch of questions trying to catch her off guard, she can pull out her can of "Headship Spray" and keep them at bay for at least a few days.
"I'm sorry, but out of respect for my Husband and the Headship Arrangement, I'm not really comfortable talking with you brothers without my Spiritual Head being present."
Anyone ever try that one?
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Seeker4 Here - Anyone on Who Remembers Me From H20 & JWD?
by Seeker4 inseeker4 - robert smith from vermont.
former jw, elder, pioneer, etc.
i've got a few thousand posts on these sites, but haven't posted for a year or two.
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Hi there Seeker!
Good to see you pop in again.
You posted this thread about a month before my first post here:
It resonated well with me.
Glad to hear you're continuing to land on your feet career-wise and I look forward to hearing more from you.
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